Ok. I may have celebrated a little bit early. but I think I finally got root motion working for real this time. the problem was a combination of blender being blender, transformation offsets, weird scaling and just the names of objects/bones being wrong. though I did get an awesome video from when I was testing and comparing two animations together and root motion sent one of them into the floor so we got a beautiful video of one guy riding the other guys head. anyways lets hope that this keeps working because I just want to get my math mathing and dataset datasetting